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Learning goals

PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:26 pm
by Tye Botting
From the old forums...

Dan N
Moderator

Learning goals
Started at Mon Jan 19 18:28:06 2004 IP165.91.177.45 So people, hopefully some of you read this forum. I pose this question to our current students.

What are your current training goals in Kung Fu and how can we better meet those requirements? I am definitely interested to hear some feedback on this.


Tauhid

Re: Learning goals
Reply #1 Posted at Sat Jan 24 09:55:55 2004 IP204.170.37.1 My two biggest goals:
-More power in attacks (still looking for a good method for this)
-increased accuracy and timing in blocking attacks

As for the 2nd goal I'm one of those who believes controlled sparring (two man lui shou's for example) is the best way to improve it, instead of free sparring. But people seldom wanna spend 15 minutes of lui shou wif me cry

oh.. and if you're reading this.. hello Tye!


Dan N
Moderator

Re: Learning goals
Reply #2 Posted at Sat Jan 24 19:46:23 2004 IP165.91.177.45 Those are great goals! I take the Lui Shou comment a little to heart, though. Controlled sparring, huh? We used to do slow forms sparring, that's always interesting. Maybe we'll have to take a good look into the sparring, though. There are a lot of ways it can be done. Two-person techniques also help with this a lot.

As far as accuracy and power, that's what we all want hopefully. Stance work, stance work, and stance work...that's just the beginning, proper form in kicks and punches also teaches power generation. And forms, doing them properly and with good deep stances will teach one power generation quite well. That's one of the fundamental goals of a form. Not just waving your hands, but teaching you how to incorporate moves and execute them with proper power generation. By now Tauhid, some moves should feel horrific when your timing is off, and when your timing is off, the power isn't there.

We'll see how we can address these issues, if you have any suggestions toss em out! See you on sunday.


Tye Botting
Administrator

Re: Learning goals
Reply #3 Posted at Wed Mar 3 04:27:25 2004 IP66.157.161.19 You guys just made my day! Glad to see folks finally using this resource. It's a very good forum system that's fast and easy to use. In many ways, it's a better vehicle for training issues and announcements than our email list, but it takes people coming to it and using it, rather than getting delivered to you automatically.

Hopefully, even more students will begin using it, and perhaps old students will drop by.


Dan S

Re: Learning goals
Reply #4 Posted at Wed Mar 3 23:14:02 2004 IP204.210.96.119 Don't forget the speed (light tap) and proprioception (array of attackers, directed by instructor) drills!
That helps develop the block reactions (at least for me.)

Ditto on the stances. Make the attack come from the foot to the hip to the shoulder to the fist, or at least get some good expand/contract action from the torso.


Dan N
Moderator

Re: Learning goals
Reply #5 Posted at Thu Mar 4 16:11:08 2004 IP165.91.177.45 Well it's good to see that you're still alive and kicking (so to speak) Dan. On the note of learning goals, how is Hung Gar treating you? (This question also applies to Ben G. if he reads it) Does it fit your style of movement well? You were always good at big bashy, swingy arms, but there's not a lot of that in Hung Gar, right?

Are you still teaching our style to people? If so, has Hung Gar helped develop your N. Shaolin/N. Praying Mantis? Again, it's great to hear from you on the board here. Hope you are doing well. Ride the marlin.


Dan S

Re: Learning goals
Reply #6 Posted at Thu Mar 4 21:20:38 2004 IP204.210.96.119 The school I train with now has a web page as well.

http://www.KongsSiuLumPai.com/

Yes, very little swingy stuff in Hung Gar. Siu Mui Fah, Sup Ji, and Sam Ying are all Choi Li Fut sets, and I get all the swingy arms I need there. I'm hitting the "all weapons" phase III part of the training now. They use rattan staves (just like the arnis sticks only 6ft tall) and it drives me nuts (a weapon with no weight doesn't help your movement <you can do it wrong with no feedback from odd balance, and if you do it right, it doesn't give you bonus momentum to move.>) On the plus side, one of the home made Kwan Dao's is an iron pipe with big blade, and I can fly with that puppy.

The Hung Gar has lots of overlap with the good body move power generation stuff from our N. Shaolin/Manits. I like the Hung Gar a lot. Choi Li Fut is all different. It breaks me sometimes.

As for teaching, I do some Chi Na stuff off and on with some of Connie's soldiers. In class I can get some folks to do Dou Shous from time to time, and during two man technique work I sometimes get to teach some more Chi Na.

I'd really like a bigger room to work out in. The studio is 20ft to a side and the guys who have done all their training there don't cover bunches and bunches of ground with each step, so I sort of get hosed doing spear or kwan dao so I don't bust mirrors.


TTinkerbel

Re: Learning goals
Reply #7 Posted at Mon Mar 8 02:56:40 2004 IP203.220.15.150 I'm here and will start reading through stuff soon.

Lunch is on the table so I'll have to get badk to it later.


Chris Rivers
Moderator

Re: Learning goals
Reply #9 Posted at Fri Mar 12 23:18:02 2004 IP152.163.253.100 Yarrrr!
My goals are to be stronger, more accurate, more cunning, sneakier, more agile and quieter. I believe, like Dan N. said STANCES and creative drills that challenge in multiple aspects. Sparring...sounds good too. The longer I stay here the more I realise the validity of "Perfection through pain"

SWARMY WAS HERE!


Ben Garcia

Re: Learning goals
Reply #10 Posted at Fri Mar 19 15:27:45 2004 IP130.160.200.178 My goal is develop my internal powers so that I can throw chi balls with my middle finger...haHA! Take that, "person who cuts me off in traffic"!

[Ahem.] Excuse me. My goals are to develop my internal abilities like rooting and power generation. By also working on speed, I want to be the guy who dodges a punch or technique and then ends the match with 1-3 well-placed hits. bandit


njekwa

Re: Learning goals
Reply #11 Posted at Wed Mar 31 17:57:09 2004 IP165.91.166.203 i desperately need to find a way to get deeper in stances etc....
dunno man.........just keeep teaching and i'm fine
my goal is to learn the art in-depthly.....so do what you will with me